Many business owners and professionals operate through corporations. One of the main benefits of using a corporation is the deferral of income tax (over 34% in some provinces) and as a result, many business owners attempt to leave as much money in their corporation as possible (in essence to build their own mini corporate retirement fund).
When Tax-Free Savings Plans (“TFSAs”) were introduced in 2009, most small business owners typically had a choice of two pots of money to fund their annual $5,000 contribution limit. They could fund their TFSA with non-registered money (savings accounts or brokerage accounts) or withdraw funds from their corporations.
Initially, most chose to fund their TFSAs with non-registered money, since this money had already been taxed. However, as time marched on, many people exhausted their non-registered money in funding their TFSAs or used these funds for their personal use, such as to renovate their homes, vacations etc.
Funding an owner/manager’s TFSA has become even more problematic with the proposed TFSA increase from $5,500 to $10,000 announced in the March, 2015 budget. Some of my clients who do not have any available non-registered money to fund their TFSAs have automatically assumed they should fund their future contributions with corporate funds, as opposed to leaving the funds in their corporations and not funding their TFSAs.
Their thinking is premised on the belief that their TFSAs will provide for tax-free withdrawals in the future, while the money remaining in their corporation will ultimately be taxable when the funds are withdrawn as dividends.
As I have also been contemplating the question of whether you are better off funding a TFSA with corporate funds (via a dividend), or not funding a TFSA at all and growing a corporate "retirement account", I decided to run some numbers to see what they reflected.
Based on some simple calculations (provided below), the answer is not necessarily clear cut, although in general, it appears you will in most cases want to fund your TFSA with corporate funds. I provide some general guidelines below.
For the mathematicians out there, please do not have any heart palpitations. I concede a vigorous analysis would include various permutations, combinations and Monte Carlo simulations, but I have neither the tools, nor the time to undertake such an analysis.
In undertaking my calculations I made some large assumptions.
1. The individual taxpayer is at the highest marginal rate (in Ontario).
2. The initial active income earned in the corporation was taxed at the lowest corporate rate of 15.5% (in Ontario).
3. I assumed a 30 year investment horizon and I used a flat 5% rate of return on the money, whether the income earned was interest, capital gains or dividends (of course in real life, typically the return on capital gains would be far in excess of that of interest and dividends), but you need to have a standard comparison point.
4. For purposes of this exercise, I assumed all dividends received are eligible dividends from Canadian public companies.
My calculations reflected the following:
1. If you are earning interest in your corporation, you are clearly better off removing those funds via a dividend and investing the after-tax proceeds in your TFSA.
2. If all you are earning is capital gains, you are probably better off leaving those funds in your corporation, rather than removing the money via a dividend and funding your TFSA.
3. If you are earning eligible dividends in your corporation, you are better off removing the funds from your company. However, the timing and your marginal tax rate at the time could change that decision.
Since most portfolios earn a blend of interest, capital gains and dividends, depending upon the actual mix (this is why you would need to run your own numbers), you will likely want to use corporate funds to invest in your TFSA.
I should note that I did play around a little with income tax brackets. I compared the $44,701- $72,064 and $89,401-$138,586 income tax brackets to the highest marginal rate bracket. I determined that at the lower brackets, there is a slightly larger bias to funding your TFSA with after-tax corporate funds for all types of income, but the differences were not compelling.
As noted above, a rugged analysis would require multiple simulations which I don't have the tools to undertake. This analysis would take into account the different corporate tax rates, rates of return, income levels, future and current tax rates, income smoothing, portfolio allocation and investing style (some people only invest in higher risk equities that will produce capital gains in their TFSA - i.e. the greatest upside with no tax).
I would like to think this post was not an exercise in mathematical futility. Instead, I hope it gives you reason for pause in automatically assuming you should fund your TFSA with corporate funds, as opposed to leaving those funds in your corporation to grow over time. In order to ensure you make the correct decision, you need to review this issue with your accountant taking into account your specific income tax and investing circumstances.
Note: I apologize for the formatting on the dividend chart. I made a change and now cannot get it back to its original format.
This site provides general information on various tax issues and other matters. The information is not intended to constitute professional advice and may not be appropriate for a specific individual or fact situation. It is written by the author solely in their personal capacity and cannot be attributed to the accounting firm with which they are affiliated. It is not intended to constitute professional advice, and neither the author nor the firm with which the author is associated shall accept any liability in respect of any reliance on the information contained herein. Readers should always consult with their professional advisors in respect of their particular situation. Please note the blog post is time sensitive and subject to changes in legislation or law.
When Tax-Free Savings Plans (“TFSAs”) were introduced in 2009, most small business owners typically had a choice of two pots of money to fund their annual $5,000 contribution limit. They could fund their TFSA with non-registered money (savings accounts or brokerage accounts) or withdraw funds from their corporations.
Initially, most chose to fund their TFSAs with non-registered money, since this money had already been taxed. However, as time marched on, many people exhausted their non-registered money in funding their TFSAs or used these funds for their personal use, such as to renovate their homes, vacations etc.
Funding an owner/manager’s TFSA has become even more problematic with the proposed TFSA increase from $5,500 to $10,000 announced in the March, 2015 budget. Some of my clients who do not have any available non-registered money to fund their TFSAs have automatically assumed they should fund their future contributions with corporate funds, as opposed to leaving the funds in their corporations and not funding their TFSAs.
Their thinking is premised on the belief that their TFSAs will provide for tax-free withdrawals in the future, while the money remaining in their corporation will ultimately be taxable when the funds are withdrawn as dividends.
As I have also been contemplating the question of whether you are better off funding a TFSA with corporate funds (via a dividend), or not funding a TFSA at all and growing a corporate "retirement account", I decided to run some numbers to see what they reflected.
Based on some simple calculations (provided below), the answer is not necessarily clear cut, although in general, it appears you will in most cases want to fund your TFSA with corporate funds. I provide some general guidelines below.
For the mathematicians out there, please do not have any heart palpitations. I concede a vigorous analysis would include various permutations, combinations and Monte Carlo simulations, but I have neither the tools, nor the time to undertake such an analysis.
The BBC’s Analysis
In undertaking my calculations I made some large assumptions.
1. The individual taxpayer is at the highest marginal rate (in Ontario).
2. The initial active income earned in the corporation was taxed at the lowest corporate rate of 15.5% (in Ontario).
3. I assumed a 30 year investment horizon and I used a flat 5% rate of return on the money, whether the income earned was interest, capital gains or dividends (of course in real life, typically the return on capital gains would be far in excess of that of interest and dividends), but you need to have a standard comparison point.
4. For purposes of this exercise, I assumed all dividends received are eligible dividends from Canadian public companies.
What Did I Determine
My calculations reflected the following:
1. If you are earning interest in your corporation, you are clearly better off removing those funds via a dividend and investing the after-tax proceeds in your TFSA.
2. If all you are earning is capital gains, you are probably better off leaving those funds in your corporation, rather than removing the money via a dividend and funding your TFSA.
3. If you are earning eligible dividends in your corporation, you are better off removing the funds from your company. However, the timing and your marginal tax rate at the time could change that decision.
Since most portfolios earn a blend of interest, capital gains and dividends, depending upon the actual mix (this is why you would need to run your own numbers), you will likely want to use corporate funds to invest in your TFSA.
I should note that I did play around a little with income tax brackets. I compared the $44,701- $72,064 and $89,401-$138,586 income tax brackets to the highest marginal rate bracket. I determined that at the lower brackets, there is a slightly larger bias to funding your TFSA with after-tax corporate funds for all types of income, but the differences were not compelling.
As noted above, a rugged analysis would require multiple simulations which I don't have the tools to undertake. This analysis would take into account the different corporate tax rates, rates of return, income levels, future and current tax rates, income smoothing, portfolio allocation and investing style (some people only invest in higher risk equities that will produce capital gains in their TFSA - i.e. the greatest upside with no tax).
I would like to think this post was not an exercise in mathematical futility. Instead, I hope it gives you reason for pause in automatically assuming you should fund your TFSA with corporate funds, as opposed to leaving those funds in your corporation to grow over time. In order to ensure you make the correct decision, you need to review this issue with your accountant taking into account your specific income tax and investing circumstances.
The Calculations
Year 1
|
|||||
Corporate Income
|
19,763
|
Corporate Dividend
|
16,700
|
||
Income Tax 15.5%
|
3,063
|
Personal Tax 40.13%
|
6,700
|
||
Net Proceeds
|
16,700
|
Net personal
|
10,000
|
||
TFSA
| |||
Funds
|
Five %
|
Total
| |
Return
| |||
Year 2
|
10000
|
500
|
10500
|
Year 3
|
10500
|
525
|
11025
|
Year 4
|
11025
|
551
|
11576
|
Year 5
|
11576
|
579
|
12155
|
Year 10
|
14775
|
739
|
15513
|
Year 15
|
18856
|
943
|
19799
|
Year 20
|
24066
|
1203
|
25270
|
Year 25
|
30715
|
1536
|
32251
|
Year 30
|
39201
|
1960
|
41161
|
INTEREST
|
|||||
Funds
|
Five
%
|
Corp
Tax
|
RDTOH
|
Net
Return
|
|
Return
|
46.17%
|
26.67%
|
|||
(A)
|
(B)
|
(C
)
|
(D)
|
A+B-C
|
|
Year 2
|
16,700
|
835
|
386
|
223
|
17,149
|
Year 3
|
17,149
|
857
|
396
|
229
|
17,611
|
Year 4
|
17,611
|
881
|
407
|
235
|
18,085
|
Year 5
|
18,085
|
904
|
417
|
241
|
18,572
|
Year 10
|
20,653
|
1033
|
477
|
275
|
21,209
|
Year 15
|
23,587
|
1179
|
544
|
315
|
24,221
|
Year 20
|
26,936
|
1347
|
622
|
359
|
27,661
|
Year 25
|
30,762
|
1538
|
710
|
410
|
31,590
|
Year 30
|
35,130
|
1757
|
811
|
468
|
36,076
|
RDTOH
|
9,600
|
9,600
|
|||
Dividend paid
|
45,676
|
||||
Tax on dividend
|
Tax
40.13%
|
18,330
|
|||
Net Proceeds
|
27,346
|
||||
CAPITAL GAIN
|
||||||
Funds
|
Five
%
|
Corp
Tax
|
RDTOH
|
Net
Return
|
||
Return
|
23.09%
|
13.33%
|
||||
(A)
|
(B)
|
(C
)
|
(D)
|
A+B-C
|
||
Year 2
|
16,700
|
835
|
193
|
111
|
17,342
|
|
Year 3
|
17,342
|
867
|
200
|
115
|
18,009
|
|
Year 4
|
18,009
|
900
|
208
|
120
|
18,702
|
|
Year 5
|
18,702
|
935
|
216
|
124
|
19,421
|
|
Year 10
|
22,585
|
1129
|
261
|
150
|
23,453
|
|
Year 15
|
27,274
|
1364
|
315
|
181
|
28,323
|
|
Year 20
|
32,938
|
1647
|
380
|
219
|
34,204
|
|
Year 25
|
39,777
|
1989
|
459
|
265
|
41,307
|
|
Year 30
|
48,037
|
2402
|
555
|
319
|
49,884
|
|
43,146
|
9,962
|
5,738
|
||||
Capital dividend 50%*$43,146
|
-21,573
|
|||||
Funds available for
dividend
|
28,311
|
|||||
RDTOH paid out
|
5,738
|
5,738
|
||||
Dividend paid
|
34,049
|
|||||
Tax on dividend paid
|
Tax
40.13%
|
13,664
|
||||
20,385
|
||||||
Capital dividend paid
out tax free
|
21,573
|
|||||
Net proceeds
|
41,958
|
|||||
ELIGIBLE DIVIDEND RECEIVED
|
|||||
Funds
|
Five
%
|
Part
4 Tax
|
RDTOH
|
Net
Return
|
|
Return
|
33.33%
|
33.33%
|
|||
(A)
|
(B)
|
(C
)
|
(D)
|
A+B-C
|
|
Year 2
|
16,700
|
835
|
278
|
278
|
17,257
|
Year 3
|
17,257
|
863
|
288
|
288
|
17,832
|
Year 4
|
17,832
|
892
|
297
|
297
|
18,426
|
Year 5
|
18,426
|
921
|
307
|
307
|
19,041
|
Year 10
|
21,709
|
1085
|
362
|
362
|
22,433
|
Year 15
|
25,577
|
1279
|
426
|
426
|
26,430
|
Year 20
|
30,134
|
1507
|
502
|
502
|
31,139
|
Year 25
|
35,503
|
1775
|
592
|
592
|
36,686
|
Year 30
|
41,828
|
2091
|
697
|
697
|
43,222
|
RDTOH
|
39,782
|
13,259
|
13,259
|
||
Dividend paid
|
56,481
|
||||
Tax on eligible
dividend ($39,782*.3382)
|
-13,454
|
||||
Tax on ineligible
dividend ($16,699*.4013)
|
-6,701
|
||||
Net proceeds
|
36,326
|
||||
Note: I apologize for the formatting on the dividend chart. I made a change and now cannot get it back to its original format.
This site provides general information on various tax issues and other matters. The information is not intended to constitute professional advice and may not be appropriate for a specific individual or fact situation. It is written by the author solely in their personal capacity and cannot be attributed to the accounting firm with which they are affiliated. It is not intended to constitute professional advice, and neither the author nor the firm with which the author is associated shall accept any liability in respect of any reliance on the information contained herein. Readers should always consult with their professional advisors in respect of their particular situation. Please note the blog post is time sensitive and subject to changes in legislation or law.
Hi Mark,
ReplyDeleteVery interesting analysis. I always assumed without actually running the numbers that it would be more beneficial to defer the funds in the corporation since after the dividend you would have less left to invest. In light of your calculations, I may have to reconsider :)
One small note on the "dividend" scenario, I believe $16,700 of the $56,481 dividend paid to the shareholder would be taxed at the non-eligible rate since that income was taxed at the low rate. This would make the TFSA alternative look slightly better.
Hi Simon
DeleteThx, you are correct, I missed that, hard to get anyone to pay attention to reviewing your numbers the last week of June when all the December year ends are due. Thx.
I think one should also consider the diversification benefits of a TFSA. Your analysis assumes no change in 30 years, which is debatable. As an example, it wouldn't surprise me if the tax advantages of a CCPC decline with time, at least for some of those with a CCPC. By diversifying between a corporate account, RRSP , TFSA and maybe even an open account, you decrease risk.
ReplyDeleteThx Anon
DeleteYes I think that is a consideration, although you could argue that if the rates change for CCPCs you could remove the money that benefited at that time.
Hi Mark,
ReplyDeleteThis is a very good analysis, however, I believe that there should be some mention that if the funds are left in the corporation, there is an opportunity to take the dividends out over time especially in years where the person's personal tax rate is lower.
I'm not sure how that would be factored into this analysis as it is extremely difficult if not impossible to predict when the funds will be withdrawn.
Dan
Thx Dan:
DeleteI noted that when I said the factors to be considered include income smoothing, which would encompass paying dividends over time. But as you note, it would require multiple simulations to even attempt to determine the benefits.
Cool! I'd like to think my suggestion helped spark this idea. :) Glad to see my rough estimates turned out about right too.
ReplyDeleteHey Nathan
DeleteIt was your suggestion that sparked the idea!
Just starting out with incorporation. I take out a salary to maximize RRSP contribution space and the rest stays invested in CCPC. Was planning on taking dividends and putting them in RRSP for the fixed income portion of my portfolio.
ReplyDeleteI know the whole TFSA vs RRSP question has been looked at previously, but I'm not sure in this context? Did you not discuss RRSP because you're assuming the CCPCs owners would be drawing only dividends for living expenses and not have contribution room or is there another reason I'm overlooking?
My income should be essentially stable throughout my career
Hi Tim
DeleteI have discussed the div vs salary issue before in a 3 part series on salary or dividend, see the right side of the page under favourite tax posts. Many people are still split on the issue. I have many clients take the max salary so they can contribute to their RRSPs and others who only take dividends and build up the funds in their CCPC.
Thanks for the reply. So assuming one does have RRSP room and has gone that route. My question is: Should you fund your RRSP, or TFSA, with corporate funds for the fixed income portion of a portfolio.
ReplyDeleteHi Tim
DeleteI cannot provide investment advice as an accountant. However, from a tax perspective, since the TFSA is tax-free, you may want to consider your TFSA for growth stocks.
Hi Mark,
ReplyDeleteI was directed to this post by Tim (I'm guessing it's the same Tim as above) when he referenced it in a comment on my blog post covering the same topic. I have done some analysis with various asset allocations and tax rates over time. You might find it interesting, and I'd love to hear your thoughts.
http://thecanadianfinancialadvisor.com/blog/2015/8/7/the-tfsa-should-not-be-overlooked-by-incorporated-individuals-with-long-time-horizons
Ben
Thx Ben, well aware of your firm and a couple members of it. Will take a look when I have a few minutes.
DeleteYes same Tim. Been a bit quiet at work last few days and on a bit of an investing self-education binge so I don't feel so ignorant when I meet my accountant.
ReplyDeleteTwo more questions/comments, I was reading Jamie Golombek's article, "In Good Company: Retaining investment income in your corporation" and he suggests taking out the non-taxable portion of capital gains on a regular basis in case of future capital losses. That is hard to model/predict of course but would this be a significant consideration in deciding asset location for an equity fund in terms of registered vs non registered account--I guess it would depend on how volatile the market was?
He also points out that in most provinces (not ON as in your example) there is a tax advantage to dividend out eligible dividends rather then keep in CCPC. I'm not sure how that would affect above?
In the end my conclusion has been to save registered account space for fixed income and foreign equities -- which is basically what my accountant said :)
Hi Tim,
DeleteAs noted, I dont provide investment advice or tax advice, especially where you have an accountant already.
The capital dividend (read my blog on the topic) would not typically be a consideration in asset allocation as it is a by product of capital gains, not visa versa.
Mark - TFSA questions / comments.
ReplyDelete1. I'm old enough to remember when there was no tax applied to interest income. When our government changed this rule it only reinforced my feelings - they are crooks.
2. I've checked on the CRA website for individuals - specifically my situation - and found the CRAs records have significant errors (in my favor). I wonder what would happen if I were to "fill up" the "$30,000 room" the CRA says I have since by my records I have made the maximum contribution each year.
3. A pet peeve of mine: most financial institutions "fine" you with a fee if you move funds to another competitor. I learned that lesson now I will wait, withdraw in Dec and put the funds into the other account in Jan.
4. Finally another pet peeve and this goes for RSPs as well (which I don't have anymore) the fact you cannot invest in some products which are not approved by CRA. Example: a company which provides mortgages and funds to companies or individuals and pays their clients who provide the capital 8%.
Long winded I know. Sorry. Take care, Paul
Hi Paul,
DeleteI hope u feel better now :)
The CRA is often a year behind on TFSAs but not many years. Pretty strange, not sure worth the penalty risk to try it.
Mark,
DeleteAh but to apply the penalty the CRA would have to prove I knew what I was doing. I'm an old man whose memory is fading.
I'm sure in your years of experience working with clients vs the CRA you have come across errors CRA has made.
Clarification ... I hope.
Note: When you see rates think GICs
2009 I open TFSA with ING A and deposit $5K
2010 + 11 Max $ into TFSA at ING
2012 ScotiaBank buys out ING and drops rates so I move all TFSA$ to First Ontario (no transfer fee by ING) and deposit max for the year.
2013 & 14 max out TFSA
2015 First Ontario rates are not competitive with credit union B so open another TFSA and move some $ from First Ontario which triggers a fee (that really pisses me off because I lose 1yr of interest and the fee has come out of my TFSA!!!).
2016 I note on the CRA website $30K of deposits are not recorded so I now have MORE ROOM! But as you say if I use the room there is a penalty. But I say to CRA where is your proof? I'm just going by CRA records.
2016 I plan to withdraw all from TFSA held at First Ontario in Dec then in Jan 2017 deposit it all with credit union B. Do I need to do advise First Ontario? Why?
When and IF credit union B notifies CRA of my large deposit in 2017 I have records to show it was a withdrawal in 2016 then redeposited in 2017. Perfectly legal.
I know I know. I'm an accountants worst nightmare.
Paul
I really cannot say much here Paul
DeleteHi, I’m making these decisions, I assume it is important to know what a corporation’s RDTOH balance is. I’m preparing the tax return for a family friend, and he is not sure what the RDTOH balance is, if any. Is there a way to determine this, i.e. will CRA provide this information from past returns? Thank you!
ReplyDeleteHi Anon
DeleteThe CRA will provide almost all corporate tax attribute numbers, including the RDTOH
Thank you! If a company declares a dividend in one calendar year but doesn’t pay it until the following calendar year, when should I expect a T5? For example, if a company declared a dividend on July 31, 2017 (their year-end) but didn’t pay it until January 2018, should I include the dividend income in my 2017 or 2018 income tax return? Thanks again for your insight!
ReplyDeleteHi Anon
DeleteYou should include it when you receive the actual T5. I would expect you to be issued the T5 in 2018