My name is Mark Goodfield. Welcome to The Blunt Bean Counter ™, a blog that shares my thoughts on income taxes, finance and the psychology of money. I am a Chartered Professional Accountant. This blog is meant for everyone, but in particular for high net worth individuals and owners of private corporations. My posts are blunt, opinionated and even have a twist of humour/sarcasm. You've been warned. Please note the blog posts are time sensitive and subject to changes in legislation or law.
Showing posts with label corporate executor. Show all posts
Showing posts with label corporate executor. Show all posts

Monday, October 18, 2021

Considerations in selecting an executor and accepting the executor appointment!

Last week, Rob Carrick the personal finance columnist for The Globe and Mail, in his Carrick on Money Newsletter (the newsletter is generally only available to Globe subscribers) asked David Edey a Certified Executor Advisor questions on his experience as an executor. These experiences and frustrations are detailed in Mr. Edey's book Executor Help: How to Settle an Estate Pick an Executor and Avoid Family Fights.

The book summary states “The grief, frustration, and stress of that experience were life-altering for David. He was determined to write this book in order to help others successfully navigate the difficult tasks of estate planning and executorship—so that their families could stay together”. 

I have not yet read the book, but as an accountant on numerous estates and a multi-time executor, I understand what drove David to author the book. Rob’s discussion of the topic in his newsletter provided me the impetus to offer a few comments of my own on the topic. So today, I discuss some considerations in selecting an executor and some of the less pleasant tasks that may be part and parcel of being appointed an executor.

Who Makes a Good Executor?


I have noted in blog posts over the years that a potential executor should have the following characteristics:

(1) Financial acumen and investing experience
(2) Be detailed oriented
(3) Handle stress well
(4) Be able to deal with people, including those acting irrationally (inheriting money does funny things to people)
(5) Be results driven

I have been involved with a couple of executors who did not have the above characteristics, especially the financial acumen and ability to handle stress. Those estates went off the rails and took years to settle. So carefully consider the above characteristics in selecting an executor.

Should you name your children as executors?

This is the $64,000 question. Assuming there are no “black sheep” in the family and all the siblings get along, you would think naming all your children would be a good idea. Sometimes the answer is yes, as they can share the burdensome and time-consuming duties as co-executors and utilize their individual strengths. Other times, being named co-executors can adversely affect your children’s relationship as the stress of settling the estate and distributing money creates discontent amongst the children.

So, should you select only one or two children who meet the above characteristics? Again, the answer can sometimes be yes, where the other children trust they are competent and even-handed. On other occasions, children may feel resentment that the parent did not name them as an executor and their siblings are favoured or given preferential treatment by their parents.

You may be saying to yourself, Mark has not answered whether I should name my children as executors, he has just given me a maybe yes and maybe no answer. But that is the reality. You need to look at your children with a cold realistic view and not your rose-colored glasses to decide if they have one of more of the characteristics to be an executor. You also need to speak to them and ask them if they feel they can work together (see discussion below). If you are not satisfied on all accounts, you may want to consider a professional corporate executor so that your children will only have to deal with an independent third party.

Do you think the executor would like to know they are being named?


Many years ago, I wrote a blog post titled "Speak to your Executor – Surprise only works for Birthday Parties, not death". You would be shocked at how many people are named an executor without prior notice. You always want to inform your executor they are being named and confirm they are comfortable with being named an executor. The last thing you want is to die and have your executor renounce their executorship. As noted above, where you have more than one executor, you want to ensure they are willing to work together, whether they are your children, friends, professional advisors, or any combination of the above.

Does an executor have to do all the work?

A well-run estate utilizes accountants for tax preparation and estate planning advice and a lawyer for estate and legal advice. You may also have to hire a specialist to prepare the passing of accounts (a summary for the court of the estate). While these costs can add up, the expression penny wise pound foolish has applied to many executors. The accountants and lawyers can also act as buffers for the family, as they act as independent advisors and can deflect some of the pressure put on the executor(s) by the beneficiaries. I have heard many an executor say, "it was the accountant's/lawyer's suggestion".

There is typically a significant amount of mundane work in settling an estate. Writing and dealing with financial institutions, games of hide and seek to find assets etc. An executor may consider asking for the assistance of their family members who are not executors to help with some of these administrative tasks; assuming they are willing and the other family members are fine with their assistance.

Sadly, I must inform you, even where you delegate and use professionals, you are likely in for a very time consuming task as an executor.

I want my Money!

In my experience, an executor will be asked to distribute money sooner than later by one or more of the beneficiaries. This is one of the most stressful aspects of being an executor, since in many cases you are unsure of what will be left of the estate following the sale of the estate's assets and the income taxes on the estate. 

It is important you do not make an interim or final distribution (see this blog post on obtaining a clearance certificate) of money until you consult with your accountants and lawyers. The last thing you ever want to have to do, is go back to the beneficiaries and tell them they were overpaid, and they must return money. This is very messy, and you could end up having personal liability for the estate. So always ensure you review any distributions with your professionals before distributing any money or assets to the beneficiaries.

An executor’s job is arduous, time consuming (it can take years to settle some estates), stressful and a messy estate can fracture family relationships. You therefore need to consider the selection of your executor(s) very carefully (especially when you will involve your children), ensure you advise them and confirm that they are willing to accept the appointment. If you are asked to become an executor, consider carefully whether you wish to accept the appointment; you may also want to consider buying David's book.

This site provides general information on various tax issues and other matters. The information is not intended to constitute professional advice and may not be appropriate for a specific individual or fact situation. It is written by the author solely in their personal capacity and cannot be attributed to the accounting firm with which they are affiliated. It is not intended to constitute professional advice, and neither the author nor the firm with which the author is associated shall accept any liability in respect of any reliance on the information contained herein. Readers should always consult with their professional advisors in respect of their particular situation. Please note the blog post is time sensitive and subject to changes in legislation or law.

Monday, January 13, 2020

My latest podcast interview – The Rational Reminder Podcast

I was recently interviewed by Ben Felix and Cameron Passmore, portfolio managers at PWL Capital, for their Rational Reminder Podcast. I thank Ben and Cameron for the interview. It was fun and they had some great questions.

Here’s a link to the podcast.

On the podcast we discuss a bunch of really interesting topics. Here are some highlights:
  • Why it is important to ensure that both spouses are relatively financially literate
  • When it makes sense to hire a corporate executor
  • Why you should involve your adult children in financial conversations
  • Why you may want to consolidate your investment holdings
  • How to deal with potential uneven distribution in an estate
  • Why success is not always linked to money
  • How I define my own personal success

The last question, about my own personal success, was a surprising question from Ben and Cameron. I was expecting to only discuss and provide advice on getting your financial affairs in order, not my personal successes. Afterwards, I thought about that question and my answers and was a bit surprised where I went with my answers, especially my comment on jealousy. I became so introspective on that answer that during the holiday break I wrote a blog post on that topic and will publish it in a couple months.

Anyways, I think this podcast is worth a listen and you may also want to check out some of the other interesting podcasts Ben and Cameron have made.

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Monday, August 13, 2018

The Best of The Blunt Bean Counter - Is a Corporate Executor the Right Choice?

This summer I am re-posting the "best of" The Blunt Bean Counter blog while I work on my golf game. Today, I am posting an April, 2011 blog on why you may wish to use a corporate executor, where you do not have a family member or friend capable of the task or you feel conflicts could arise among your family if one or two children are selected as executors.

You Have Been Named an Executor Series

The first blog in my executor series, discussed the concerns the Globe and Mail had in respect of the estate tax system and in particular, some of the issues surrounding the Paul Penna estate. The problems associated with Mr. Penna’s estate, highlight the importance of considering a corporate executor in certain circumstances.

In my second blog, I discussed the duties and responsibilities of an executor. These responsibilities can often overwhelm the appointed executor(s); which again leads back to today’s guest blog on whether a corporate executor is the best choice for estates that will have unsophisticated executors?

Today, in my final installment of the series I have a guest blog by Heni Ashley. Heni is a lawyer with over 20 years experience in the estate and trust industry, who brings a unique perspective to this issue. I thank Heni for her contribution.

Is a Corporate Executor the Right Choice? (By Heni Ashley)

I have read Mark’s two prior blogs and the Penna estate article with great interest. The Penna estate, in my opinion, was just the type of situation where a corporate executor should have been considered.

What exactly is a corporate executor?  Corporate executor services in Canada are available through incorporated trust companies, which are typically subsidiaries of our national banks.

Had Mr. Penna appointed a corporate executor, his bequests would have been carried out and the estate’s finances would have been tracked diligently and accurately.

In my opinion, a corporate executor provides an estate with the following:

1)    Professionalism, knowledge, expertise.  Knowledge in the area of estate, trust and tax law is invaluable, as is expertise in asset gathering and valuation, property management, investing and accounting.

2)    Impartiality.  A corporate executor can manage conflicting interests (i.e. second marriages), difficult personalities and bring an objective, unemotional approach to the estate administration.

3)    Availability.  The corporate executor is always there.  There is no need to worry about an out of town executor, or an executor dying or becoming incapacitated or physically unable to carry out the task. 

4)     Ease of administration.  There is no worry about unduly burdening a family member, friend or associate as the job of an executor can be difficult (depending on the size of the estate and the personalities of the beneficiaries) and time-consuming (depending on the nature of the assets).

5)    Continuity/permanence. A corporate executor can provide the continuity needed for certain family situations such as an ill or incapacitated spouse or minor or disabled children where there is a need for long term trusts and financial care.

6)    Cost efficiency.  The personal executor can charge the same fee as a corporate executor.  Often a fee agreement can be negotiated with a corporate executor at the time that the will is drawn.  Also, a corporate executor often eliminates the need to hire additional outside experts, which results in a cost savings to the estate.

Notwithstanding the above, had the deceased in the Penna case given thought to using a corporate executor, there are a few reasons why he might have decided against it:

1)       Impartiality (which can sometimes be viewed as indifference to family):  Some people are concerned that a corporate executor will be indifferent to the needs of the beneficiaries. This objection, however, can be overcome by jointly appointing a corporate executor together with a personal executor who can shed some light on the personal circumstances of a deceased’s family.  The two executors can then act as a check and balance against each other.  Another way to deal with this is to leave a detailed memo together with the will, explaining to all executors the reasons for certain bequests and discretionary powers (i.e. to help a child get established in business, to see a particular charity get off the ground, to provide the best of care for a sick spouse, etc.)

2)      Knowledge: A testator (the person making a will) may have a knowledgeable professional relative, friend or colleague who is willing to act as an executor (although Mr. Penna thought he had such a person).

3)      Cost: While a personal executor can take the same fee as a corporate executor, in many cases he/she will not take the maximum fee because he/she feels it is excessive (the fee can be as high as 2.5% of the assets coming in and 2.5% of the assets going out as well as a fee on income earned by the estate and a care & management fee).

I would suggest it does not make sense to engage a corporate executor in the following circumstances:

1.     Where the estate is very small,
2.     Where there are only a few well defined beneficiaries,
3.     Where the gifts are all outright (i.e. no long term trusts to be administered), and
4.     Where the assets are all very straightforward (e.g. one or two bank accounts or brokerage accounts, no real estate).

In summary, each situation is as unique as the individual parties involved.  Some beneficiaries are never happy no matter what, whether it is with their bequest, with someone else’s bequest, with the choice of executor, the manner in which the estate is administered …  Often childhood jealousies surface to complicate matters – families can be difficult and the job of an executor is rarely an easy one!

This site provides general information on various tax issues and other matters. The information is not intended to constitute professional advice and may not be appropriate for a specific individual or fact situation. It is written by the author solely in their personal capacity and cannot be attributed to the accounting firm with which they are affiliated. It is not intended to constitute professional advice, and neither the author nor the firm with which the author is associated shall accept any liability in respect of any reliance on the information contained herein. Readers should always consult with their professional advisors in respect of their particular situation.

Tuesday, April 26, 2011

Part 3- Is a Corporate Executor the Right Choice?

The first blog in my executor series, discussed the concerns the Globe and Mail had in respect of the estate tax system and in particular, some of the issues surrounding the Paul Penna estate. The problems associated with Mr. Penna’s estate, highlight the importance of considering a corporate executor in certain circumstances. 

In my second blog, I discussed the duties and responsibilities of an executor. These responsibilities can often overwhelm the appointed executor(s); which again leads back to today’s guest blog on whether a corporate executor is the best choice for estates that will have unsophisticated executors?

Today, in the final installment of this series, I have a guest blog by Heni Ashley. Heni is a lawyer with over 20 years experience in the estate and trust industry, who brings a unique perspective to this issue. I thank Heni for her contribution and her advice and guidance on the prior two blogs.

Is a Corporate Executor the Right Choice? (By Heni Ashley)

I have read Mark’s two prior blogs and the Penna estate article with great interest. The Penna estate, in my opinion, was just the type of situation where a corporate executor should have been considered.

What exactly is a corporate executor?  Corporate executor services in Canada are available through incorporated trust companies, which are typically subsidiaries of our national banks.

Had Mr. Penna appointed a corporate executor, his bequests would have been carried out and the estate’s finances would have been tracked diligently and accurately.

In my opinion, a corporate executor provides an estate with the following:

1)    Professionalism, knowledge, expertise.  Knowledge in the area of estate, trust and tax law is invaluable, as is expertise in asset gathering and valuation, property management, investing and accounting.

2)    Impartiality.  A corporate executor can manage conflicting interests (i.e. second marriages), difficult personalities and bring an objective, unemotional approach to the estate administration.

3)    Availability.  The corporate executor is always there.  There is no need to worry about an out of town executor, or an executor dying or becoming incapacitated or physically unable to carry out the task. 

4)     Ease of administration.  There is no worry about unduly burdening a family member, friend or associate as the job of an executor can be difficult (depending on the size of the estate and the personalities of the beneficiaries) and time-consuming (depending on the nature of the assets).

5)    Continuity/permanence. A corporate executor can provide the continuity needed for certain family situations such as an ill or incapacitated spouse or minor or disabled children where there is a need for long term trusts and financial care.

6)    Cost efficiency.  The personal executor can charge the same fee as a corporate executor.  Often a fee agreement can be negotiated with a corporate executor at the time that the will is drawn.  Also, a corporate executor often eliminates the need to hire additional outside experts, which results in a cost savings to the estate.

Notwithstanding the above, had the deceased in the Penna case given thought to using a corporate executor, there are a few reasons why he might have decided against it:

1)          Impartiality (which can sometimes be viewed as indifference to family):  Some people are concerned that a corporate executor will be indifferent to the needs of the beneficiaries. This objection, however, can be overcome by jointly appointing a corporate executor together with a personal executor who can shed some light on the personal circumstances of a deceased’s family.  The two executors can then act as a check and balance against each other.  Another way to deal with this is to leave a detailed memo together with the will, explaining to all executors the reasons for certain bequests and discretionary powers (i.e. to help a child get established in business, to see a particular charity get off the ground, to provide the best of care for a sick spouse, etc.)

2)          Knowledge: A testator (the person making a will) may have a knowledgeable professional relative, friend or colleague who is willing to act as an executor (although Mr. Penna thought he had such a person).

3)          Cost: While a personal executor can take the same fee as a corporate executor, in many cases he/she will not take the maximum fee because he/she feels it is excessive (the fee can be as high as 2.5% of the assets coming in and 2.5% of the assets going out as well as a fee on income earned by the estate and a care & management fee).

I would suggest it does not make sense to engage a corporate executor in the following circumstances:

1.     Where the estate is very small,
2.     Where there are only a few well defined beneficiaries,
3.     Where the gifts are all outright (i.e. no long term trusts to be administered), and
4.     Where the assets are all very straightforward (e.g. one or two bank accounts or brokerage accounts, no real estate).

In summary, each situation is as unique as the individual parties involved.  Some beneficiaries are never happy no matter what, whether it is with their bequest, with someone else’s bequest, with the choice of executor, the manner in which the estate is administered …  Often childhood jealousies surface to complicate matters – families can be difficult and the job of an executor is rarely an easy one!

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